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JAJ
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21 Sep 2004 at 13:24 |
| That'll be a gig then. :-) Fair enough, there has to be "gigs" too, ticketed or otherwise but let's call a shovel a shovel. :-) |
Loudon
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21 Sep 2004 at 16:18 |
Hi John - you'll need to take that one up with the good folks at McEwan's, I'm afraid. I didn't programme it, so don't shoot the messenger. Just thought as Fergie was so good it wouldn't do any harm to let those interested in button box players know this one's happening. All of the "gigs" at Oran Mor which are being supported as part of the broader McEwan's Sessions initiative are being billed under the McEwan's Sessions programme which covers festival sponsorship as well as well as "gigs"....and, in addition, of course, there are the pub and hotel "sessions" which continue until the end of November. Blazing Fiddles at Oran Mor was one example and The Vatersay Boys too. At the end of this month, Fiddlers' Bid will play Oran Mor - again under the McEwan's Sessions banner. Ain't that great! Full details as follows: Thursday, September 30 - Fiddlers' Bid - Oran Mor, Byres Road, Glasgow G12 8QX. 8pm. Tickets (£12.50) from Glasgow Royal Concert Hall box office. Tel: 0141 353 8000.
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renanged
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19 Nov 2004 at 21:35 |
| i have recently aquired a hohner student II accordian,i wonder if anyone could tell me anything about it and what year it was made and anything else about it,it says made in germany on it. |
Tom
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20 Nov 2004 at 00:24 |
| I've never come across a Hohner Student II button-box. What does it look like? Generally speaking the German-made Hohners are pretty good and the reeds are easy to tune but they stopped making them :-( The Chinese-made Hohners that came out in the mid 70's(?) are difficult to play, difficult to tune and sound awful! |
renanged
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20 Nov 2004 at 08:40 |
| i have pictures of it if you want me to send them to you,,,i cant really describe it apart from it has 16 keys and is black in colour, |
Tom
Posts: 193
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22 Nov 2004 at 17:29 |
| That's a piano-box you've got |
renanged
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22 Nov 2004 at 22:43 |
| could you give me any information on it ,it looks like an accordian and plays like an accordian. |
Simon T
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22 Nov 2004 at 23:18 |
It is an accordion!
Sorry couldn't resist that. |
renanged
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22 Nov 2004 at 23:38 |
| give that person a pat on the back for that one ha ha,glad you told me that,,i would never have known otherwise |
Tom
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23 Nov 2004 at 01:17 |
| What's the difference between an accordion and a concertina? - The accordion takes longer to burn :-) |
Hammer
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29 Nov 2004 at 05:17 |
I couldn't resist adding this one to the thread, it was a Larsen cartoon of a guy just arriving in Hell (backdrop of demons, pitchforks, flames etc). He's reading a sign... "welcome to Hell, here's your accordian" Actually I love the button box and learned (after a fashion) as a kid growing up in London, my Dad played for sets there. I'm looking forward to getting him up to Edinburgh for the Hogmanay this year. I'll be at that Roxburgh bash (thanks Eliz.) and will probably be at the George St one on the 30th. Not many button boxes here in LA.
I'm sorry, I lied in that last post, the Mexicans LOVE button boxes. When my Dad and I visited Tijuana and got a few local brews down, he paid an accordian player in a strolling mariachi band for the use of his box for a few minutes. If you can picture the mariachis trying to accompany him in "the pigeon on the gate" you'll laugh. When the mariachi wanted his box back a bunch of US Marines wouldn't let him have it until the old man played another tune. |
FolkyJohn
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05 Dec 2004 at 14:26 |
| I moved to North East Fife few years ago and find it strange that although this area is famous for Jimmy Shand and he started playing on a single row melodeon, I placed advert in a local Fife newspaper looking for other beginners like myself on melodeon ,,and reply was nil, which is hard to believe,, cant believe that all melodeon players died with Shand.so I have taught myself with 10minutes every day until i never think about the scale now just think of tunes, but I know Im not doing great as cant master the bass, so any suggestions :( |
FolkyJohn
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05 Dec 2004 at 14:40 |
The one that seems strange in Scotland all over the world they mostly prefer Italian boxes, but most boxes I have seen played in Scotland whether piano or Button has always been Hohner, an yet I was always told they were second from the bottom seems strange when so many are used, whether its the fact as most Hohners now made by Chinese being a learner I wouldnt care for a chinese made box, From the best to the worst how would you grade them
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FolkyJohn
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05 Dec 2004 at 14:53 |
another thing I have found hard to find is somein in NE Fife that tunes Boxes etc I used to go to John Crawfords few years back when I collected boxes, but as Jock is retired from that now who can anyone suggest I generally use Theo Gib in England but thats far if somewhere in this area, but in meantime if anyone is stuck like myself Theo@theboxplace.co.uk is good and first class.even a learner cant play a box that aint in tune. |
cairdin-boy
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06 Dec 2004 at 11:47 |
well.... I am a button box player from Glasgow (hence my name), and I know many very accomplished box players who are all Scottish.
I teach the box and have 8 pupils once a week, so in Glasgow at least, there are plenty of decent box players out there.
As to the point about the style of box playing, yes it has changed quite a lot over the years, players are generally less like Jimmy Shand and co, and more like the more contemporary trad music which we see today.
As for box players being streets ahead in Ireland, yes, no doubt about it. But how many of you are aware of a Glasweigan box player Lawrence McElhinney, if you ever hear him play, you will never see the box in the same light again. He is a truly superb musician and his easy going style is great to listen to.
In terms of boxes, the most popular key is the B/C tuning. Originaly in Ireland the C#/D tuning was preferred by most, but this had a major flaw in that the box was unable to play tunes in the key of C. Nowadays., the B/C tuning is accepted among pretty much everyone as the correct tuning and there is no difference in boxes from the different Celtic countries.
Most of the boxes in the Scottish and Irish scene are infact made in Italy., with Saltarelli, castignari, and Paolo Soprani among the more common models.
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Tom
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07 Dec 2004 at 17:44 |
| Folky John - Alan Clark tunes boxes in Ladybank, Fife. You'll find quite a few melodeon players around the box and fiddle clubs in the area |
Tom
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07 Dec 2004 at 18:07 |
Cairdin-boy wrote "In terms of boxes, the most popular key is the B/C tuning. Originaly in Ireland the C#/D tuning was preferred by most, but this had a major flaw in that the box was unable to play tunes in the key of C. Nowadays., the B/C tuning is accepted among pretty much everyone as the correct tuning and there is no difference in boxes from the different Celtic countries" What a load of nonsense!!! Of course you can play in the key of C on a C#D box - you just play the C and F natural on the outside row. In fact C#D tuning is fully chromatic and (IMHO) is more compatible with the playing of Irish and Scottish trad. Indeed it could be argued that B/C tuning is largely going out of fashion - Sharon Shannon, Dermot Byrne (Altan), Jackie Daly, Mairtin O Connor, Brendan Begley (Boys of the Lough), Benny McCarthy (Danu) Christy Leahy (North Cregg) and Lawrence McElhiney all play C#D |
RoadPoet
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15 Jan 2005 at 15:12 |
| How do I tell difference between Chinese made Hohners and the old ones,,my 2 row and 1 row both have the german trade mark, so what does Chinese ones have.. |
JohnBearcat
Posts: 52
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02 Oct 2005 at 01:34 |
| I met Allan Clark a month ago I bought a paolo Soprani B/C from him 1940s model its a grand instrument, he is a nice guy to chat to, |
JohnBearcat
Posts: 52
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02 Oct 2005 at 01:38 |
Anyone know what happened to all the stock and parts that Forbes of Dundee had when they closed down Im looking for an old Hohner tutor Forbes used to sell Hohner ones in 50/60s or if anyone has any wooden bodied Black dots for sale can contact me |
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